Christopher Price is the Founding Editor of PhoneNews.com. Today, he leads the team building Console, Inc. - a new kind of Android™ device. He still likes to pontificate... a lot. You can visit his personal blog at ChristopherPrice.net.

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18 responses to “T-Mobile Pulls Plug on Non-Sidekick Prepaid Data”

  1. Chetan

    Well T-Mobile announced of pulling the plug but they never announced how to COLLECT THE ALREADY PREPAID money which is already paid to them…I have $200 on the prepaid account and i have unused refill cards how do i get a refund back…T MOBILE PLEASE LET ME KNOW

  2. Ike D

    Well, looks to me like your original article , plus a high profile thread forum directly on one of Tmobile’s very own company spnsored forums coming out at the same time may have had some impact on their decision to kill it.

    The press has a job to do, but it really gets irritating when they screw it up for people who have a good thing going . To embarass and humiliate the company providing that good thing isn’t a good way to keep said good thing going. “Look! Read this article! We will tell you how to take advantage of company X, shame them and tick them off!”

    Yeah, what you did was “legal”, but when the service you were telling the whole world to shamelessly and ruthlessly exploit to the max gets shut down a week later, kind of dampens the point of the original article , eh?
    I mean, what’s the point of hyping something if it gets killed a few days later, possibly thanks to your hype?

    Oprah did that when she opened her mouth about how much cheap real estate there is in Hawaii on the Big Island on national TV.Thanks to that, the real estate market first skyrocketed then tanked. There WAS cheap real estate. The only reason it’s affordable again now is that prices everywhere are tanking. Well, it would be affordable if there was anyone left with money to buy it.
    Congratulations. Maybe next time when you run into a similar deal , you’ll think twice about telling the whole world about it. That way, your follow up article isn’t one saying, “Oh , you know that great thing we told you about last week? Well , it’s gone now because everyone tried to come and take their whole farm away because of what we wrote. They shut the gates. Sorry.”

  3. Christopher Price

    Ike D, we have no plans to change how we report.

    AT&T and T-Mobile both have multi-million dollar product management teams. They are well aware of all these workflows and processes that are perfectly legal. They offer these ill-fated plans in the hopes that consumers won’t become smart enough to take full advantage of them.

    Well, guess what? It is the job of PhoneNews.com to educate consumers, to make them smarter and more agile in this wireless world. If a few broken business models fail because of that, we see that as a good thing. It forces these providers to come up with proper plans. Boost Mobile’s new CDMA unlimited plan, and Sprint’s Relay Data-only plan for the Palm Pre are two great examples of this in action.

    We don’t back down from our commitment to tell you everything you can do with your phone, in plain English. And we aren’t going to.

  4. Ike D

    I don’t expect you to change how you report. I see it as a great waster of time to give people things which get taken away that much quicker , hastened in demise by reports such as yours. Showing people how to be smarter but having whatever exploit you show being removed shortly afterwards doesn’t make you guys look smart at all, policy of revealing how to maximize your phone or not.

    Sure, you get a lot of readers by showing how to game the system. All well. You get hits, ad revs go up. But as for journalistic consequences, I don’t think you guys really think about that. Your fellow personal technology publication Laptop Magazine certainly didn’t exhibit deep journalistic thinking when they gave their Best Product of the Year award to Zer01 which is currently entangled in scandal.

    Because they did a sloppy journalistic execution on that story, they had to backtrack and rescind the award after the fact to try and save face and tail. It was a third party journalist who actually did the real digging. Not them.

    Laptop Magazine’s award certainly gave credibility and weight to at that time , a new ,unknown and untried product which is now embroiled in legal troubles with serious doubts about whether it even exists or not.

    It certainly had some affect on the tens of thousands who signed up and paid millions to be a part of Zer01.

    The Sidekick prepaid data thing is different, yet it is still related. The consequences from your story probably did have some impact. You can deny it, but if you are saying that what you write and publish has no consequences, why bother publishing anything?

    I just don’t see your publication or Laptop Magazine and others who don’t think through consequences of their “journalism” winning any prizes of the Pulitzer level any time soon.

    I don’t expect you to back down. Don’t expect me to either.

  5. celz

    lmao you rely think tmobile wasnt aware of that until this site made the article.. if this blog doesnt meet your quality standards go to cnn or make your own..

  6. Bret

    What is the best internet plan for the iphone now?

  7. Tony

    Chris,
    It’s nice to see that Sprint officially allows PAM for Sprint Relay Data (except for Pre, BB 8350i) — I’m very tempted.

    Does the Boost Mobile CDMA plan officially support PAM? The i.wireless plan?

  8. Christopher Price

    No, but per the FCC’s Comcast/BitTorrent ruling, the most the carrier can do is ask you to port your number out (contract-free) to another provider. And, you have to use several gigabytes of data per month for that to happen.

    I should note that Sprint Relay only doesn’t support data on the Pre because the Pre has modem sharing disabled in the firmware. While they aren’t commenting, there’s nothing stopping you from paying $10 and installing My Tether on it.

    iDEN BlackBerries have buggy internet slinging, and with WiDEN gone… there’s really no point to it.

  9. Tony

    Thanks Chris. Can anybody add a line of service and sign up for the Sprint Relay plans?

  10. Angry Dude.

    Dude. You’re an idiot man!!! You just f*%ked up a lot of people’s lives by opening your big mouth. You expect T-mobile to ‘give us a better plan’ writing s*#t about how to hack them ehh? They are just gonna find more clever ways to suck our wallets dry. GAWD! how could u be so f***** up man. You know not everyone has $50 or more to shed on phone bills every month or so.

    I just wish you guys would put a sock in it next time 🙁

  11. Christopher Price

    We’ll never put a sock in it, sorry.

  12. Christopher

    Sounds like the i-wireless plan may only be allowed if half of the minutes are used in Iowa.

  13. HardCore

    Clowns like Christopher Price made it bad for everyone. I was using my G1 on the prepaid network and loving it. I wake up one morning only to realize it had been cut off and thinking maybe its just mine. We had a good thing going and figures some asshole would come ruin it. Like the other Angry Dude said not all of us have 50+ to shell out for a bill for something we were getting for FREE!!…You should really get a life pal!

  14. LockedOutinFL

    I switched to T-Mobile in June and subscribed to the $19.99 unlimited data and messaging plan for my 2G iPhone, which worked fine for months. Last Friday my data stopped working. Today, Tier 3 support at T-Mobile said they “flipped a switch” in the network late last week, and stopped offering the $19.99 plans for unsupported or “grey market” phones. He apologized that I and countless other customers had received NO notice about this change, but argued that the $19.99 service should never have been sold in the first place (yet it was a published service a the time, and the company has collected my payments ever since). My only option to re-active data, per Tier 3 Support, is switch to the $24.99 sidekick data plan AND add the $10 unlimited messaging plan. Now I pay $15 more for the same exact service – cha ching. I’d like to know why T-Mobile did not notify me of this change as a paying customer. I get the business reasons, but a contract is a contract and no advance notice was given. I would like to be grandfathered at $19.99 until my contract is up, or be allowed to exit my contract with no penalties. That, to me, would at least seem fair. Keep in mind that T-Mobile in Germany IS able to legally support the iPhone, so the “grey market” argument only applies in the US. Where are the good news reporters when you need them, to blow the lid off this story on a national level? T-Mobile in the US supports more than 10,000 unlocked iPhones, have teams of inside experts with iPhones themselves, and are happy to add this bonus revenue to their bottom line that the “other” network would otherwise receive. But to simply flip a switch with no notice, and then cheerfully offer the SAME service for $15 more a month, seems like load of bullcrap to me. I’d like answers…